Showing posts with label L Band. Show all posts
Showing posts with label L Band. Show all posts

Monday, November 13, 2023

RTL-SDR V4 compared to RTL-SDR V3



HVDN prime author Steve K2GOG received two of the RTL-SDR V4 during its initial production run. 

Here we are about four months later and there have been many other reviews focused on basic differences between the two devices. 

There have also been impressively fast integration of the new drivers along with popular software. By mid September, almost everything was solved but I waited a while to do this article now that production has resumed and the V4 is easily found again until the R828T chips run out.

Almost every video or article focuses on the same things like which one works better for HF reception or other pretty basic things. There are some major differences where the V4 really shines and that is what this review is about.  Our goal is to NOT focus on the same thing and to not try to force our readers to buy one over the other, unless the below is of interest to you.

Please note, get the right antennae for what you want to do. Using telescoping crap antenna is not going to work well for almost everything we cover below based partially on the spectrum coverage chart below.


Directly from the "RTL-SDR Blog V4 Dongle Initial Release" article, there are some major things to point out.


  • 0-30 MHz Spectrum:  This has been beaten to death already. The V4 is much better at HF reception compared to the V3, but you still need to have a real antenna. Do not take shortcuts here as a marginal 2-3 foot (1m) telescoping whip is not going to impress you.  A major benefit is not having to select Q branch to receive the "short wave" spectrum, so with the right software the overall user experience is still better here.   It is worth noting that comparing the V4 to even the inexpensive "knock off" SDRPlay devices for around the same price still offers better HF spectrum coverage along with wider 10 MHz bandwidth compared to the V4's 3.2 MHz bandwidth.  Its time to move on. The RTL-SDR is fine for what it is and stop focusing just on this spectrum as a selling point.
  • 100-300 MHz Spectrum:  There are spots where coverage is slightly better with the V4 compared to the V3. Its not worth getting into much detail here, but the built in triplexer and filtering does a better job limiting out of band broadcast interference from the 88-108 MHz range, especially if you are interested in civilian aviation VHF 118-136 coverage as well as other amateur or utility communications.
  • 315 & 433 MHz ISM Spectrum:  If you really want to explore what is around you or wish to think you are some sort of "hacker" having better sensitivity and filtering around the 315 MHz range used for tire pressure monitors found on many vehicles in North America and the shared 433 MHz ISM range with many "Internet of Things" devices and amateur radio things is a huge gain here.  This was worth the expense for these monitoring target applications.
  • 868 & 915 MHz Sub GHz Spectrum:  Another area of improvement with the V4 device.  Many IoT devices worth sniffing around exist here. While the V4 does seem as if it is not as sensitive compared to the V3, I feel this is not too bad since it forces the user to use more purpose drive antennae to make up for the difference. 
  • >1000 MHz+ Spectrum:   North of 1 GHz, performance is not really that bad with the V4 and with an LNA, better antennae or combination of the two is fine.  Over time, the two V4 devices have been tested to have slightly less thermal drift and lower power consumption compared to the V3.  In many cases where monitoring L Band spectrum, this becomes important since the RTL-SDR's have been installed in areas not very accessible or have had to contend with heat build up.   For applications like HRPT satellites,  ADS-B, and so many other things found in the 1000-2000 MHz slice, the V4 has really been great when uses with purpose focused antennae.

Lazy Summary

We are talking about an under $40 USD device. Stop being cheap. Stop pretending this will be the best radio receiver ever made. Stop using crap antennae and blaming the SDR or the software. Stop thinking the world revolves only around HF spectrum.  Buy an RTL-SDR V4 if you are interested in doing many things which will motivate you to explore better antennae and software where you can find really cool things in the airwaves that may just be data signals and not just human voice communications.

Other Things

I really like the indicator light for when the bias T power is active. The L band patch made by RTL-SDR has an indicator, but its inside the antennae housing so is not viewable. Knowing the small green light on the V4 is on, does help ensure I know the antenna downstream is seeing power has been helpful Many software packages like SDRangel allows control of the bias T power, but a physical indicator is still nice.

Overall design in such a small package is hard to do.  We may be at the limits of what else can be done in this formfactor but with thermal management becoming more challenging, its commendable how the power supply has been redesigned. Earlier SDR suffered greatly from power issues, this is not the case with the V4.

If there were two front end major changes, I would love to have a built in dedicated high isolation filter which pretty much knocks out the entire 88-108 MHz range up to 60db since strong signals tend to mix at odd places at times or have a tight filter around 400 MHz for better ISM or radiosonde monitoring between 400-450 MHz.   Otherwise I am just picking on things I can solve other ways via outboard filtering or mission specific antennae with usually do a great job at out of band attenuation.


Tuesday, July 6, 2021

L-Band: Frequencies You Need To Know About


L Band is defined by IEEE as 1 to 2 GHz and there is a lot going on in this valuable chunk of spectrum that will be of interest to any radio hobbyist, regardless if you are an amateur radio person or not.

In the United States, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) visualizes L-Band like this:



Lets take a quick look at what to expect via some easy to monitor targets as single discrete frequencies:

  1. 1030 MHz ( ADS-B Interrogator)
  2. 1090 MHz (ADS-B/1090ES)
  3. 1176.45 MHz (GPS L5 & GLONASS L5OCM & Baidou B2a  & NavIC L5)
  4. 1191.795 MHz (Baidou B2a/B2b)
  5. 1202.025 MHz (GLONASS L3OC)
  6. 1207.14 (GLONASS L3OCM  & Baidou B2I/B2Q)
  7. 1227.60 (GPS L2)
  8. 1246 MHz (GLONASS L2)
  9. 1248.06 MHz (GLONASS L2OC & L2SC)
  10. 1268.52 MHz (Baidou B3I/B3Q/B3A)
  11. 1294.0 MHz (Amateur Region 3 FM Calling)
  12. 1294.5 MHz (Amateur Region 2 FM Calling)
  13. 1296.1 MHz (Amateur Region 2 CW/SSB Calling
  14. 1296.2 MHz (Amateur Region 1 CW/SSB Calling
  15. 1297.5 MHz (Amateur Region 1 FM Calling)
  16. 1381.05 (GPS L3)
  17. 1420 MHz (Hydrogen Line)
  18. 1544.5 MHz (COSPAT-SARSAT)
  19. 1561.098 MHz (Baidou B1Q)
  20. 1575.420 MHz (GPS L1 & GLONASS L1OCM  & Baidou B1C/B1/B1A)
  21. 1600.995 MHz (GLONASS L1OC & L1SC)
  22. 1602 MHz (GLONASS L1)
  23. 1691.0 MHz (GOES-10 WEFAX & MeteoSat & GMS)
  24. 1685.7 MHz (GOES-10 GVAR PDUS  & GOES-12 GVAR PDUS)
  25. 1694.1 MHz (GOES-16 HRIT/EMWIN & GOES-17 HRIT/EMWIN)
  26. 1698 MHz (NOAA-16 HRPT & NOAA-12 HRPT)
  27. 1702.5 MHz (NOAA-15 HRPT)
  28. 1707 MHz (NOAA-17 HRPT & NOAA-14 HRPT)

There is much more more beyond the above list worth looking at, but to do so, you need the right receiver and the right antenna to get started.

Your first L-Band Receiver

This is the easiest part to buy, but will get more complicated later on.  

Purchasing an inexpensive software defined radio USB dongle like a genuine RTL-SDR v3 will offer the most flexibility to experiment with for L-Band monitoring. Why?

  • Costs less than $40 USD
  • Can be repurposed for monitoring frequencies outside of L-Band
  • Can resolve signals up to and between 2.4 MHz and 3.2 MHz bandwidth
  • Relatively stable accuracy across entire tuning range thanks to its 1 PPM TCXO
  • Has a low power DC bias injector needed for some external amplifiers or antennae
  • Easy to locate closer to antenna or computer depending on application because of its USB and SMA connectors.

Many of the signals found in L-Band are data communications versus voice modes like N-FM or SSB, so using an SDR is the best way to get started.

Your first L-Band Antennae

This is a tough thing to address since an antenna at L band frequencies will have different benefits or shortcomings depending on what you wish to monitor.

With most applications for L Band focused on directional or space based communications, a pre amplified or passive patch antenna is a good way to start out as well as to try a single plane Yagi antenna.

Currently my "favorite" antenna for a large and interesting portion of L Band is made by the same folks who make the popular RTL-SDR V3 USB device mentioned above.  

Covering 1525 to 1660 MHz, this amplified antenna is very nice and comes with a length of cable and mounting options. Purchase direct from RTL-SDR.com or via Amazon here.


While the nice suction and gripper base are included with the antenna, I found them personally a little annoying so instead for portable demonstrations, I am using this inexpensive tripod that extends up to almost 4ft tall and collapses down very small. And, it comes with some other accessories that made it an even better deal. 


There are many other options for specific portions of  L Band to consider especially if you are interested in ADS-B aircraft signals at 1090 MHz or the amateur radio portion of the band from 1240 to 1300 MHz but we are not going to focus on those in this article. 

Your first L-Band Software

There are so many options, but here is a list of the top options worth having on hand.

General Purpose:  SDRangel - This great and under appreciated software offers a lot if you are interested in L-Band monitoring. Built in mapping for ADS-B at 1090 MHz plus some helpful satellite prediction and visualization tools along with digital television options are a few examples. 



SAR & Navigation: Tekmanoid EGC/LES STD-C Decoder - If you are interested in decoding InMarSat satellites which are used for maritime shipping and safety along with some aircraft or search and rescue situations, this may be of interest.


High Resolution Weather:  XHRPT, HRPT Reader, HRPT Decoder for HRPT as well as GOES imaging are a few options ranging from free to paid software. 

There are enough videos and articles elsewhere that talk about how to set up this high resolution weather decoding using the 1.6 GHz range spectrum within L Band. Many people find success with repurposing  2.4 GHz Wi-Fi grid antennae with a simple modification or a purpose made 1.7 GHz version. 

HRPT satellite   HRPT satellite


Amateur DATV:  SDRangel - This program is great for many reasons, but one area to use it for is decoding different analog and digital video signals. A typical DVB-S2 signal is less than 300 kHz wide and using the 23cm amateur band using a Lime SDR or HackRF is a great way to experiment along with DATVexpess to transmit with, and use SDRangel to receive.


Summary

This article is not meant to be an exhaustive how to article, but to raise awareness of L Band and for the amateur radio crowd, to see how in demand this spectrum is and to find ways to utilize the 1240 to 1300 MHz allocation in the United States before commercial services further try to purchase this spectrum.